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Feb 8, 2019

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A conversation with Dr. Howard Schubiner on the latest neuroscience approaches to understanding and treating chronic pain.  Dr. Schubiner's Mind Body Program emphasizes the way the unconscious brain and neural pathways (versus structural abnormalities) are the cause of most chronic pain and require a different approach to treatment than standard pharmacological and/or pain psychology frameworks.  

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Leader's Project interview with Jared Rose

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