In this episode, Dr. Jessica Tyler talks with Sara Ellison, an associate licensed counselor, nationally certified counselor, and doctoral student on perfectionism and overcontrol. They discuss how perfectionism impacts individuals' wellness, along with the parallel process of being a counselor or counselor-in-training who struggles with perfectionistic and overcontrolled tendencies. This episode is for anyone who identifies with the fear of failure, impression management, masking emotions, and overcontrol. Recommendations for infusing openness and flexibility into practice through RO-DBT and other techniques is also discussed.

Dr. Anne Saw shares her work within Asian American, Native Hawaiian, and Pacific Islander communities. She gives us a deep dive into the work that went into the Covid-19 Needs Assessment Project and how community-engaged research made it possible. She ends with her hopes for the future, advice to others wanting to do similar work, and encouragement for students who haven't found their niche yet.

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